Kadjar clutch issues. ***solved***

Gillybeany

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Dancingdad

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Clutch burned out in 19K is quite possible for some people, hate to say it but in that respect I understand the dealer.
And of course if they can blame you then they can charge and not use warrantee. which they still get paid for but have to justify to Renault.

What I cannot work out is the pedal sticking and other bits of the tale. and that makes me think more car then driver issue.
For the pedal to stick down it would seem as though enough heat had been generated with slipping to seize the friction plate on the splines. which leads me to wonder if the plate was moving freely on the splines in the first place. loads of time sitting doing nothing during lockdown?
Which puts a different slant on it, the car failed to cope with lockdown, clutch mechanism not moving freely caused slip and that escalated into total burn out.. warrantee please mr dealer.

Not sure how you prove but state of splines may tell the story. if rusted, I’m sticking with my take on it, if not, driver.

Gillybeany

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Clutch burned out in 19K is quite possible for some people, hate to say it but in that respect I understand the dealer.
And of course if they can blame you then they can charge and not use warrantee. which they still get paid for but have to justify to Renault.

What I cannot work out is the pedal sticking and other bits of the tale. and that makes me think more car then driver issue.
For the pedal to stick down it would seem as though enough heat had been generated with slipping to seize the friction plate on the splines. which leads me to wonder if the plate was moving freely on the splines in the first place. loads of time sitting doing nothing during lockdown?
Which puts a different slant on it, the car failed to cope with lockdown, clutch mechanism not moving freely caused slip and that escalated into total burn out.. warrantee please mr dealer.

Not sure how you prove but state of splines may tell the story. if rusted, I’m sticking with my take on it, if not, driver.

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Moxinel

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Definitely a problem with clutch not being released fully. Then on a longer journey, when heated, clutch started to slip and eventually destroyed the whole unit.
Why? That’s something else.

Changing only clutch plate is worthless. Flywheel is destroyed too and everything has to be changed.
Considering other prices in Britain, think this is normal. But that has to be covered by Renault. No driver could have done that in only one day unless on purpose.

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Gillybeany

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Renault will help you out. Call then and they’ll ask for an inspection to be carried out. But they will advise you that it could come at a cost to yourself if the liability is found to be on you guys.

The likelihood is, Renault could and probably will do some sort of goodwill gesture. But with your car standing for such a long period of time. It’s very likely that the thrust bearing seized, thus holding the clutch plate and stopping it from spinning. Renault use a LUK thrust bearing and clutch plate. The plate isn’t the problem. The thrust bearing is what tends to seize. I’ve seen it happen to a few Renaults.

Can I ask, did your car feel like it was jumping slightly when pulling off in 1st?

Gillybeany

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Renault will help you out. Call then and they’ll ask for an inspection to be carried out. But they will advise you that it could come at a cost to yourself if the liability is found to be on you guys.

The likelihood is, Renault could and probably will do some sort of goodwill gesture. But with your car standing for such a long period of time. It’s very likely that the thrust bearing seized, thus holding the clutch plate and stopping it from spinning. Renault use a LUK thrust bearing and clutch plate. The plate isn’t the problem. The thrust bearing is what tends to seize. I’ve seen it happen to a few Renaults.

Can I ask, did your car feel like it was jumping slightly when pulling off in 1st?

Moxinel

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Roof box, 70 mph on highway and full load just helped to overheat the clutch. But it must not happen that clutch pedal got stuck to the floor. Even if you somehow overheated it by your driving.
Wether the problem is in master clutch cylinder, slave cylinder or the clutch itself, it is not drivers fault.

Say your husband was driving and resting his left foot on the clutch pedal. Clutch would be overheated, the whole assembly burnt to replacement, but clutch pedal would still be working. And from what you wrote, that clutch pedal is still problematic in operation.

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Roof box, 70 mph on highway and full load just helped to overheat the clutch. But it must not happen that clutch pedal got stuck to the floor. Even if you somehow overheated it by your driving.
Wether the problem is in master clutch cylinder, slave cylinder or the clutch itself, it is not drivers fault.

Say your husband was driving and resting his left foot on the clutch pedal. Clutch would be overheated, the whole assembly burnt to replacement, but clutch pedal would still be working. And from what you wrote, that clutch pedal is still problematic in operation.

I’m guessing the thrust bearing kept getting stuck to the clutch disc — hence the clutch pedal staying to the floor.

I think Renault will help with some sort of goodwill gesture. Especially on a car with that low mileage.

@Gillybeany, who ever you speak to. Shy away from telling them that your car has been stud throughout the pandemic.

Dancingdad

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That’s where I am at.
While some drivers can and do wear out clutches really fast by bad driving habits, I have never known a pedal stick from burning the clutch.
That it stuck down made me feel initially that it was sticking prior to the journey, that the splines were not moving freely.
We’ve seen other people with sticky clutches during lockdown. to me this is another case of it.

Add to that the prices quoted, do those dealers wear a mask and mug old ladies as well?

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That’s where I am at.
While some drivers can and do wear out clutches really fast by bad driving habits, I have never known a pedal stick from burning the clutch.
That it stuck down made me feel initially that it was sticking prior to the journey, that the splines were not moving freely.
We’ve seen other people with sticky clutches during lockdown. to me this is another case of it.

Add to that the prices quoted, do those dealers wear a mask and mug old ladies as well?

I know right?! A clutch kit from LUK, with the bearing is less than £500. I’m going to say that the owner has a dual mass flywheel. So we’ll add on roughly £800-900 for that. So we’re now under 1 and half K

So let’s wrap our heads around this. £2800 — £1300

So the dealership think this job is justifiably charged at £1500 for labor carry out

They have 4 post lifts, gearbox jacks, the exact tools which we all know they use air/electric impact guns to get the job done quicker. I can’t imagine the renault «master tech» standing there and torque everything back to spec. The job should take no more than a few hours for them to complete. It’s the *********** at it’s finest, offering a price like that. They say pay that and we’ll promise you we can call your car good once we’ve finished with it and caused more problems

Sorry, I’m ranting. I don’t mean to do that. But I lost my faith in dealerships a long time ago. IMO, once you get your head around the fact that they are there to serve us a car and make money and that’s all. I think you come to peace with the fact that your mostly on your own from that point you move the car from the forecourt.

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